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>> ERIC: TONIGHT ON "ALMANAC," WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE THAN HALF THE SHOW FOCUSING ON KEY MINNESOTA CONGRESSIONAL RACES.

THE THIRD DISTRICT IS THE ONLY OPEN SEAT IN THE STATE'S DELEGATION AND BOTH CANDIDATES ARE HERE LIVE IN STUDIO.

PLUS, MARY LAHAMMER TRAVELED SOUTH OF THE TWIN CITIES TO HIGHLIGHT THE RACE THERE.

>> Mary: MINNESOTA'S SECOND CONGRESS DISTRICT IS AGAIN HOME TO ONE OF THE MOST COMPETITIVE RACES IN THE COUNTRY BUT THIS TIME COUNSELINGWOMAN CRAIG HAS A NEW OPPONENT.

>> CURRENTLY REPRESENTED BY A DEMOCRAT.

>> A CLOSE RACE AND WE'LL FIGHT HARD TO THE FINISH LINE.

THAT'S COMING UP ON "ALMANAC."

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>> Eric: WELCOME TO ALMANAC, CATHY HAS THE NIGHT OFF.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE THAN HALF THE SHOW FOCUSING ON KEY MINNESOTA CONGRESSIONAL RACES.

THE THIRD DISTRICT IS THE ONLY OPEN SEAT IN THE STATE'S DELEGATION AND BOTH CANDIDATES ARE HERE LIVE IN STUDIO.

WE'VE GOT OTHER ELECTION-TYPE NEWS LINED UP FOR YOU, AS WELL, SO LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN.

START TONIGHT WITH THE CAM CAMPAIGN ISSUE MANAGING FRONT-MAJOR NEWS AROUND MOST OF THE U.S., A VIRAL VIDEO WITH FALSE CLAIMS AGAINST GOVERNOR TIM WALZ HAS BEEN LINKED TO A FORMER FLORIDA MAN.

THE EX-LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL FLED TO MOSCOW AND IS REPORTEDLY WORKING WITH RUSSIAN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE TO DISRUPT THE UPCOMING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

RENEE BURR IS A UNIVERSITY OF St. THOMAS PROFESSOR, HERE TOO IS MAGIT RAGAE, WITH THE CENTER FOR APPLIED IN -- IN TELL THE GENERALS.

HOW SOPHISTICATED ARE THESE OPERATIONS?

>> SO THEY'RE EXTREMELY FIST INDICATED.

ON THE ONE HAND, IT'S NOT ALL THAT NEW.

WHAT RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR DECADES, SO LOOKING BACK TO THE KGB, THE PSYCHOLOGICAL STRATEGIES THAT THEY'RE USING TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE AND TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION IS REALLY THE THING THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR DECADES.

>> Eric: CAN THE PLATFORMS THEMSELVES FILTER THIS STUFF OUT?

>> WELL, THEY CAN, BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IND OF VIDEO IT IS.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT FAKE VIDEOS THAT ARE THE DEEP FAKE VIDEOS AND THAT ARE THE CHEAP FAKES, THE CHEAP FAKES, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY NOT BE A LOT OF A.I.

BEING USED SO A PLATFORM IS TRYING TO MONITOR THE USE OF AN .I., BUT IN YOU HAVE HIRED AGE ACT -- A PARTICULAR INCIDENT THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED, ALL THAT THE -- THERE IS NO A.I.

BEING USED BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE VIDEO IS NOT FAKE.

>> Eric: THE TENSION BETWEEN FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND WEEDING OUT SOME OF THIS STUFF, WHAT WAS THE BALANCE THERE?

>> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY A SOFT TARGET FOR THIS AND WHAT RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ARE VERY GOOD AT IS DETERMINING WHERE THE BIG DIVISIONS ARE AMONGST AMERICANS AND REALLY HEIGHTENING THOSE.

THE BIG DIFFERENCES NOW, THANKS TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVEN NEW MEDIA, WHICH IS MORE HYPER PARTISAN, THEN ONE VIDEO THAT RESONATES WITH PEOPLE CAN BE SHARED WITH A MILLION PEOPLE SO IT'S AN OLD STRATEGY BUT AMPLIFIED BY A MILLION.

>> Eric: IS THERE -- IS IT HOPELESS TO COMBAT THIS ONLY TECHNICAL SIDE FROM THE COMPANIES THAT ARE INVOLVED OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS BUYER BEWARE TYPE OF THING, VIEWER OR LISTENER BEWARE?

>> YEAH, SO I THINK IT'S MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDER APPROACH PROBABLY THAT IS GOING TO WORK HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, FROM A PUBLIC POINT OF VIEW, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT A.I.

CAN AND CANNOT DO.

SECONDLY, EDUCATED PUBLIC AND THEN PUT PROBABLY SOME ENCOURAGEMENT AND PRESSURE ON LAWMAKERS WHO CAN EVENTUALLY PUT SOME MANDATES ON THESE BIG TECH COMPANIES.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT TECH COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE THE TECH COMPANIES THAT FACILITATE HESE MODEL CREATIONS, AND THEN HAT ARE THESE OTHER TECH COMPANIES THAT DISTRIBUTE THESE FAKE VIDEOS, AS WELL.

>> Eric: BUT IT'S HOPELESS FOR THE REGULATORY BODIES OR CONGRESS OR A LEGISLATURE TO KEEP AHEAD OF THIS OR TO EVEN KEEP UP WITH IT, ISN'T IT?

>> RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE INFORMED LAWMAKERS AS WELL AS PUBLIC, AS WELL, SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS IMPOSSIBLE TO DETECT A.I.

-GENERATED VIDEOS.

THERE ARE ONES THAT WE CAN EASILY IDENTIFY, SUCH AS, MANY TIMES, FAKE VIDEOS, THE FINGERS AREN'T PROBABLY RENDERED, MANY THINGS IN THE BACKGROUND MAY NOT BE PROPERLY RENDERED.

WHEN YOU HAVE A FAKE VOICE, THAT MAY AVE SOME AMBIENT NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND, MIGHT BE DISTORTIONS, SO THERE ARE WAYS TO DETECT IT.

>> Eric: TELL US ABOUT THE MEDIA BIAS CHART.

>> YES.

>> Eric: IS THAT SOMETHING TO USE?

>> IT IS REALLY USEFUL, IT'S SOMETHING I SHARE WITH MY STUDENTS AND I RECOMMEND ANYONE USING IT.

IT IS CALLED THE MEDIA BIAS CHART, MADE BY AN ORGANIZATION CALLED ADD CONTAS MEDIA, YOU CAN GOOGLE THAT AND FIND IT, IT'S A LOVELY FIGURE THAT TELLS YOU WHICH MEDIA SOURCES TEND TO REPORT MOSTLY FACT VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE MORE BIAS OR EVEN TO THE LEVEL OF PROPAGANDA.

>> Eric: WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THE U.S. TIMES ODAY THAT CHINA WAS MONITORING THE PHONE OF Mr. TRUMP AND SENATOR VANCE?

>> NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.

THERE IS A FANTASTIC DATABASE THAT PEOPLE MIGHT FIND INTERESTING, CALLED THE AUTHORITARIAN INTEREST TRACKER, IT TRACKS BOTH THES SERVICES AS WELL AS THE CHINESE SERVICES.

>> Eric: CAN THE -- >> IF THERE HAS BEEN IN TRUCKS OR NOT SO A.I.

PLAYS A DIFFERENT ROLE, IT CAN HELP TO PREVENT DISINFORMATION AND AT THE SAME TIME, IF IT LANDS IN THE HANDS OF BAD ACTORS, IT CAN LEAD TO INFORMATION BEING SPREADING, AS WELL.

>> Eric: IS THERE ANY DATA TO SHOW THAT THESE ATTEMPTS HAVE ACTUALLY CAUSED A CANDIDATE TO WIN OR LOSE OR VOTING TO BE SUPPRESSED OR IS IT JUST THEORETICAL NOW OR... >> EVERYTHING THAT I'VE READ SAID THAT IT'S UNLIKELY TO HAVE COMPLETELY CHANGED HOW SOMEONE WOULD VOTE.

HOWEVER, THESE SORT OF SURPRISE ATTACKS LIKE AGAINST GOVERNOR WALZ THIS WEEK ARE VERY COMMON.

AT THE TWO-WEEK MARK RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION, WE SEE THESE IN THE BREXIT DEBATES, WE SAW THEM IN THE FRENCH ELECTIONS IN 2017, SO RUSSIA HAS THIS SORT OF TWO-WEEK TIME PERIOD WHERE THEY TRY TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT THEY THINK WILL INFLUENCE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE FENCE.

>> Eric: JUST A MINUTE LEFT.

IS THIS GOING TO GET WORSE AND WORSE OR IS THERE AN EFFORT THAT IT COULD BE SUCCESSFUL TO -- >> YEAH, IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE IN THE SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A CAT AND MOUSE GAME.

YOU HAVE THE A.I.

DETECTORS THAT ARE GETTING BETTER AND BETTER.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE A.I.

-GENERATED MODELS ARE ALSO GETTING MUCH BETTER IN TERMS OF CREATING FALSE VIDEOS, AS WELL.

>> Eric: WELL, IT DOESN'T SOUNDS OPTIMISTIC TO ME, I GOT TO SAY.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Eric: TO BE DETERMINED, HUH?

THANKS, PROFESSORS.

HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THIS WEEK WAS ALSO ABOUT DISINFORMATION AND DEEP FAKES.

VICE PRESIDENT CANDIDATE WALZ IS BACK ON THE CAMPAIGN IN SWING STATES, AFTER STOPPING IN MINNESOTA TO CAST AN EARLY BALLOT BACK HOME.

PLY POLITICAL REPORTER MARY LaHAMMER WAS IN THE PRESS POOL WITH THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IN St. PAUL.

>> Mary: GOVERNOR WALZ WAS ESPECIALLY EXCITED TO RETURN HOME TO CAST HIS BALLOT WITH A NEW VOTER IN THE FAMILY.

[Cheering] >> BEAUTIFUL MINNESOTA DAY.

SUPER EXCITING.

CAST MY VOTE NOR KAMALA HARRIS, AMY KLOBUCHAR, BETTE McCOLLUM AND AD MY SON WITH ME, GUST, TO VOTE FOR THE FIRST TIME.

EXCITING, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THE PAGE ON THE CHAOS OF DONALD TRUMP AND A NEW WAY FORWARD.

>> Mary: THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HAS HAD A WHIRLWIND CAMPAIGN AND TOUR.

>> TRAVELING THE COUNTRY AND GETTING TO SEE AMERICANS WHERE THEY'RE AT, GETTING TO HEAR WHERE THEY'RE AT, WAKING UP YESTERDAY IN SAGINAW, MICHIGAN, AND GOING TO A UNION HALL AND A CHURCH TO SEE PEOPLE, IT HAS BEEN SOMETHING.

>> PLEASE WELCOME THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR VICE PRESIDENT, GOVERNOR TIM WALZ.

IS THIS THE FIRST NON-SWING STATE THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN IN THE LAST... [Laughter] >> BEEN IN A COUPLE BUT MOSTLY THE SWING STATES.

>> MOSTLY THE SWING STATES.

YOU SAW THE REACTION THAT YOU GOT HERE, YOU'RE COMING INTO NEW YORK.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN -- HONESTLY -- [Applause] [Cheering] >> BUT NOW, WHEN YOU ROLL INTO PENNSYLVANIA, ARE THEY JUST LIKE, OH, MY GOD.

[Laughter] >> NO, THEY'RE EXCITED.

THEY KNOW WHAT'S RIDING ON THIS.

THEY KNOW THAT THOSE SWING STATES AND THOSE COUNTIES MATTER, IT'S TARGETED.

THEY'RE DOING THE WORK.

>> WENT FROM MINNESOTA, NOW YOU'RE ON THE CAMPAIGN ACCOMPANIED BY SECRET SERVICE.

WHAT IS IT LIKE RUNNING WITH SECRET SERVICE AROUND YOU?

>> IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT RUNNERS ARE RUNNERS ANYWHERE.

GET YOURSELF A DOG IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND GO VOTE.

YOU HAVE BEEN A GOOD BOY.

PROBABLY NEED A PUP CAN YOU PLEASE, MANN.

>> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WENT AFTER WALZ AT HIS RALLY IN GEORGIA.

>> THEY CALLED J.D.

VANCE AND I WEIRD, WE'RE NOT WEIRD, WE'RE SOLID PEOPLE.

HE'S A WEIRD DUDE, ALWAYS PUMPING HIS HEART LIKE HE'S GOT GREAT HEART.

♪♪ >> ERIC: THERE'S JUST TEN DAYS LEFT BEFORE ELECTION DAY AND THE PACE HAS PICKED UP ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND IN MEDIA ATTENTION FOR BOTH PRESIDENTIAL TICKETS.

WE'VE BEEN CHECKING IN REGULARLY WITH NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTERS WHO HAVE MINNESOTA TIES.

JOINING US VIA ZOOM IS ANGELA GREILING KEANE.

SHE'S THE NEWS DIRECTOR AT BLOOMBERG GOVERNMENT, A FORMER WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT AND A MINNESOTA NATIVE.

WELCOME BACK.

I WONDER IF YOU AND OTHER REPORTERS HAVE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH DEAN FAKES AND DISINFORMATION, WE ALKED ABOUT LAST SEGMENT.

>> THERE SURE IS A LOT.

WHAT WE HEARD THE EXPERTS SAY IN THE EARLIER PANEL IS THERE ARE GREAT WAYS TO BE A CRITICAL CONSUMER OF INFORMATION T BLOOMBERG, WE ARE VERY CAREFUL, WE HAVE POLICIES THAT WE USE TO VERIFY INFORMATION.

WE DON'T 2003 OR SEND ANYTHING TO OUR CUSTOMERS WITHOUT VERIFYING THAT THE INFORMATION IS IN FACT TRUE BUT OF COURSE WE INCREASINGLY SEE ATTACKS FROM USUALLY NEFARIOUS FIGURES.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW RUSSIA HAS BEEN BEHIND THE ATTACK ON GOVERNOR WALZ WITH THE FAKE INFORMATION, SO WE EXPECT TO SEE MORE OF THAT AS THE ELECTION GOES ON AND WE JUST TALKED TODAY IN OUR NEWSROOM ABOUT BEING VERY, VERY CAREFUL ABOUT INFORMATION ON ELECTION NIGHT WHEN WE SEE NEWS ABOUT RACES BEING CALLED AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE TO E ACCURATE AND TIMELY BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, NOT FALL FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NOT TRUE.

>> Eric: I'M GOING TO WILDLY SIMPLIFY WHAT I THINK ARE THE CLOSING ARGUMENT FROM THE TWO CANDIDATES AND YOU ELL ME RIGHT OR WRONG OR WHAT YOU THINK.

TRUMP IS SAYING THINGS WERE BETTER WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT AND KAMALA HARRIS IS SAYING, TRUMP IS A DANGEROUS FASCIST.

IS THAT -- IF YOU WERE BOILING IT DOWN, HOW DOES THAT SOUND?

>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY A BIG PART OF WHAT EACH OF THEM IS SAYING.

WE HAVE CERTAINLY HEARD SOME OBSERVERS, ESPECIALLY ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE SAYING THAT KAMALA HARRIS NEEDS TO FOCUS MORE ON WHAT SHE WOULD BRING AND NOT JUST ATTACKING DONALD TRUMP.

DONALD TRUMP'S MESSAGE IS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN HERS, HE DOES HAVE TRACK RECORD FROM HAVING BEEN PRESIDENT AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MUCH OF THE LAST NOT QUITE TWO WEEKS ARE ATTACKING EACH OTHER VERSUS MESSAGING WHAT THEY WOULD DO S PRESIDENT.

>> Eric: DOES THE POLLING SHOW US ANYTHING EXCEPT IT'S CLOSE?

>> NOTHING.

THERE WERE TWO POLLS I LOOKED AT THAT CAME OUT TODAY, ONE HAD EACH CANDIDATE TIED AT 47-47, THE OTHER ONE HAD EACH CANDIDATE TIED AT 48-48.

THOSE ARE ASSUREDLY BOTH WITHIN THE MARGIN OF EURO SO NO AAPPRECIABLE DIFFERENCE.

IT REALLY WILL COME DOWN TO VOTES IN THE 7 SWING STATES.

WE ALL KNOW THAT PRESIDENTS IN THE U.S. ARE NOT ELECTED BY THE MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNTRY, THEY'RE ELECTED BY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE SO THOSE SEVEN STATES WILL ULTIMATELY DETERMINE WHO IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT.

>> Eric: WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF GET OUT THE VOTE EFFORTS FROM BOTH CAMPS?

>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

WE ARE SEEING AN UPTICK IN EARLY VOTING THIS YEAR.

I WAS LOOKING AT SOME NUMBERS EARLIER TODAY AND IT SHOWS THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE EMBRACED EARLY VOTING THIS ELECTION MUCH MORE THAN PREVIOUSLY WHEN DONALD TRUMP HAD CRITICIZED THE IDEA AND ENCOURAGED REPUBLICANS NOT TO VOTE EARLY.

THAT IS A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT HE HAD SAID, WHAT HE'S SAYING NOW AND CERTAINLY IN WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LEADERSHIP IS TELLING THEIR VOTERS.

THEY WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE EARLY, AS DEMOCRATS DO, AS WELL, BUT THAT'S NOT A CHANGE IN THEIR POLICY, SO WE'VE SEEN THAT REPUBLICANS AVE ACTUALLY OUTPACED DEMOCRATS IN THREE SWING STATES IN EARLY VOTING.

THAT WAS A BIT OF A SURPRISE AND WE'VE EEN THAT ABOUT 30 MILLION PEOPLE SO FAR AS OF YESTERDAY HAD VOTED EARLY AND THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 20% OF THE ENTIRE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE U.S. THAT VOTED FOUR YEARS AGO.

SO IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TREND.

YOURS EXCUSE ME.

IN STATES WITH PARTY REGISTRATION, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN MINNESOTA -- >> CORRECT.

>> Eric: -- IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING SO MUCH BETTER THAT IT MAY BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR DEMOCRATS TO MAKE IT UP ON ELECTION DAY?

>> NO, IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY THAT AND THERE IS STILL A FAIR AMOUNT F TIME TO VOTE EARLY AND THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE VOTED EARLY BY MAIL AND THEIR BALLOTS ARE STILL ON THE WAY.

WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS BEING POSTMARKED BY ELECTION DAY FOR PEOPLE WHO DO VOTE BY THE POSTAL SERVICE, AND WHILE WE KNOW THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE OUTPACED EARLY VOTERS IN THREE OF THE SWING STATES, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT ANYBODY VOTED FOR, JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S REGISTERED WITH A PARTICULAR PARTY, IT DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY THAT THEY VOTED FOR THAT PARTY.

IT'S A FAIR INDICATION BUILT EACH OF THE CANDIDATES AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET, AND CERTAINLY SENATE CANDIDATES, AS WELL, AND MAYBE SOME HOUSE CANDIDATES ARE HOPING THAT THERE ARE PARTY WITCHERS, PEOPLE THAT VOTE NOT JUST THE PARTY LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BALLOT.

>> Eric: THE ABORTION ISSUE STILL PACKING A PUNCH?

>> VERY MUCH SO.

IT IS THE ISSUE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE USING, FIRST AND FOREMOST, TO RALLY THEIR VOTERS.

WHAT WE'RE HEARING ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL FROM KAMALA HARRIS, FROM GOVERNOR WALZ, FROM THE SURROGATES FOR THAT CAMPAIGN IS THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE DANGEROUS FOR WOMEN, DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT REPRODUCTIVE CHOICE, AND WE ARE SEEING BALLOT INITIATIVES, AS WELL, IN A NUMBER OF STATES, I BELIEVE IT'S TEN STATES THAT HAVE ABORTION-RELATED BALLOT INITIATIVES UP THIS YEAR, AND THOSE -- THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEHIND THOSE INITIATIVES CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THEY TURN OUT VOTERS AROUND THAT THOSE VOTERS VOTE DEMOCRATIC.

>> Eric: WHO'S LEFT TO BE PERSUADED?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO MEET THOSE PEOPLE BUT STATISTICALLY, WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS THAT ONE OF THE FIRST BLOCKS OF VOTERS THAT BOTH CAMPAIGNS ARE GOING AFTER IS WHITE NON-COLLEGE-EDUCATED WOMEN, THAT IS SAID TO BE ONE OF THE LOCKS THAT VOTES CAN STILL BE GOTTEN FROM, PEOPLE HAVEN'T ALREADY VOTED AND PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T MADE UP THEIR MINDS SO WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING BOTH OF THE CANDIDATES TRYING TO APPEAL TO THOSE VOTERS IN SMALLER APPEARANCES, AS WELL AS LARGER TOWN HALLS AND RALLIES.

>> Eric: DO VOTERS HAVE THEIR ANTENNA UP IN CASE THERE'S MORE OCTOBER SURPRISES, ARE THEY HARD TO GET PERSUADED OR CHANGE THEIR MINDS OR GET FIRED UP?

>> WELL, THE OCTOBER SURPRISE THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS ISRAEL APPARENTLY LOBBING MISSILES AT I -- MISSILES AT I RAN SO THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT CODIS RUPT THE RACE IN THE FINAL DAYS.

CLEARLY, ISRAEL, GAZA AND THE MIDDLE EAST OVERALL HAS BEEN A BIG PART OF THE CAMPAIGN ALREADY BUT THIS IS A BIG NEW DEVELOPMENT AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE CANDIDATES REACT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

>> Eric: ANGELA, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

SAY HI TO YOUR MOM, WILL YOU?

>> WILL DO.

THANK YOU, ERIC.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IF YOU DETECT DIFFERENT ENERGY IN MY VOICE THIS MONTH, YOU'RE NOT WRONG.

THIS WAS BEFORE THE 2024 ELECTION, AN ELECTION THAT PRACTICALLY EVERYONE IS SAYING IS A MAKE OR BREAK FOR THE FAITH OF THE UNIVERSE, WHICH MAYBE IT IS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S THIS BIZARRE ANTI-CRESCENDO SWEEPING ACROSS THE LAND.

PEOPLE ARE CALMLY TAKING OUT THEIR TRASH AT THE USUAL TIMES AND BASICALLY JUST GLANCING UP NOW AND THEN TO SEE IF THE WORLD HAS ENDED.

IT'S A REALLY STRANGE TIME TO BE ANALYZING POLITICS AND HAS ME STRUGGLING TO DIG OUT THE BEST CARTOONISTS METAPHOR SO I'M GOING TO TRY HIS.

YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THREE TEENAGERS RIDING AN E-BIKE AT 30 MILES PER HOUR AND NONE OF THEM ARE WEARING HELMETS AND THE ONE STEERING IS CHECKING HIS PHONE AND YOU JUST WATCH THEM GO BY?

THAT'S OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS THESE DAYS, ISN'T IT?

WE ALL KNOW IT HAS A VERY REAL CHANCE OF ENDING BADLY BUT WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO?

YELL AT THE BIKE?

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN.

PUT UP A SIGN, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO READ IT.

POST SOMETHING ON Facebook, WHY SHOULD THEY CARE?

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM, THIS IS SOMEHOW A FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION TO INTERACT WITH SO WE THINK OUR THOUGHTS AND WE PROJECT NORMALCY.

WE TAKE OUT THE TRASH AT THE USUAL TIMES AND WE FOCUS ON OUR ONLY REAL SOLACE, WHEN THE BIKE DOES EVENTUALLY CRASH, WE CAN ALL SAY, I TOLD YOU SO.

HAPPY VOTING, EVERYBODY.

>> ERIC: WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF THE HOUR FOCUSED ON TWO OF MINNESOTA'S MOST WATCHED CONGRESSIONAL RACES.

IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, THE CANDIDATES RUNNING TO REPLACE OUTGOING THIRD DISTRICT CONGRESSMAN DEAN PHILLIPS WILL JOIN US LIVE IN THE STUDIO.

BUT FIRST, THE STATE'S CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION IS SPLIT 50-50 WITH FOUR DEMOCRATS AND FOUR REPUBLICANS REPRESENTING MINNESOTA.

ONCE AGAIN, THE MOST COMPETITIVE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IS IN THE SOUTH METRO AND BEYOND.

REPORTER MARY LAHAMMER TAKES US THERE.

>> THREE, TWO, ONE... [Cheering] >> Mary: WHEN A SITTING MEMBER OF CONGRESS GETS TO CUT A RIBBON FOR A PROJECT LIKE A VETERANS' PARK, INCUMBENCY CLEARLY HAS ITS ADVANTAGES.

>> INCUMBENCY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS ADVANTAGES BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS ONE OF THE FAVORITE PARTS OF DOING THE JOB OF BEING A MEMBER OF CONGRESS.

I'VE WORKED SINCE I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF CONGRESS TO TRY AND BRING YOUR TAX DOLLARS HOME.

>> HI!!

HOW'S IT GOING?

>> Mary: THE REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER, JOE TEIRAB IS ROW INTRODUCING HIMSELF TO VOTERS AS A NEW CANDIDATE IN THE SECONDS CONGRESSALTY DISTRICT.

>> I LIVED THE AMERICAN DREAM, GETTING TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY IN THE MARINE CORPS, GETTING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES BY BEING A PROSECUTOR AND KNOW YOU WANT TO HELP PEOPLE BE -- >> Mary: HE BEAT JASON LEWIS SIX YEARS AGO AND FENDING OFF REPUBLICANS SINCE.

YOUR OPPONENT IS NOW GOING AFTER YOU AS BEING IN WASHINGTON TOO ONG.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN THERE TOO LONG?

>> I HAD A 22-YEAR PRIVATE CAREER BEFORE I WENT TO CONGRESS IN 2019.

I DO THINK TERM LIMITS ARE A GOOD THING AND I SUPPORT THEM.

>> Mary: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DIFFERENT THAN THE PEOPLE SHE RAN AGAINST BEFORE?

>> I'M FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES, LIKE THE ECONOMY, AND ANGIE CRAIG, WE'VE SEEN ACCUMULATION OF WHAT HER VOTING RECORD AS GOTTEN PEOPLE, MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES.

SHE VOTED FOR RECKLESS SPENDING BILL AFTER BILL THAT LED US TO INFLATION MESS.

>> MILE TRACK RECORD OF BEING THEth MOST INDEPENDENT MEMBER IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, I HOPE IS, YOU KNOW, CTUALLY PROOF THAT I'VE BEEN AN INDEPENDENT VOICE FOR US.

>> SHE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT STATISTICS BUT THE REALITY IS, SHE VOTED FOR THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT.

SHE SAID IN A DEBATE IN 2022 IT WOULD REDUCE THE DEFICIT.

LO AND BE HOLD, IT RAISED THE DEFICIT.

>> Mary: IN THE LAST THREE HE MECHANICS CONGRESSWOMAN CRAIG HAS PREVAILED IN, IT'S BEEN BY A SLIM MARGIN AROUND IT CONTINUES TO CHANGE AND GROW.

>> I LOVE THIS DISTRICT, IT'S THE MOST EASILY DISTR TO BE REPRESENTED BY A DEMOCRAT.

YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE ACROSS THE SPECTRUM AND I LOVE THIS DISTRICT.

NO MATTER WHAT I DO, HALF THE DISTRICT IS MAD AT ME AND SOMETIMES IT'S DEMOCRATS WHO ARE MAD AT MY AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

>> Mary: THE DISTRICT IS A UNIQUE MIX OF SUBURBAN, EX-URBAN AND RURAL AND THAT'S WHERE TEIRAB THINKS HE HAS AN ADVANTAGE.

>> I THINK I'M REAT AT IT.

I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN, MY DAD WORKED AT A PROCESSING PLANT IN WINDOM, THE 4,000' PEOPLE TOWN.

I GREW UP PLAYING ON ALL SPORTS TEACHINGS BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVER TO BE SUPER GREAT, AND I'M A SON OF AN IMMIGRANT FROM SUDAN WHO CAME TO AMERICA TO LIVER THE AMERICAN DEAN.

>> Mary: THEY AGREE ON THE TOP ECONOMIC ISSUE BUT DIVERGE AFTER THAT.

>> FIRST, TACKLING COSTS IN MY DISTRICT, ABORTION IS THE NUMBER TWO ISSUE AT THE DOORS IN THIS DISTRICT.

AND, LOOK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT REEDOM.

THERE'S ONE THING ABOUT THE SECOND DISTRICT IS, IT'S ABOUT 30% REPUBLICAN, 30% DEMOCRATS, 30% INDEPENDENT AND 10%, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T LIKE EITHER ONE OF US.

>> NUMBER ONE ISSUE ARE YOU HEARING ECONOMY HERE?

>> IT'S DEFINITELY THE ECONOMY BECAUSE WE ALL GO TO THE FROST RESTORE, RIGHT?

WE'RE PAYING A TON.

>> Mary: SHE SAID NUMBER 2 IS THE ISSUING OF CHOICE AND ABORTION AND SHE THINKS THAT'S WHERE SHE'S GOT YOU.

>> >> WELL, SHE SAYS THAT'S THE SECOND ISSUE.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT -- TALKING TO PEOPLE AT THE DOORS, WHEN I TALK TO THE PEOPLE AT THE DOORS, I HARDLY EVER HEAR SOMEONE BRINGING HIS ISSUE UP.

>> I HAVE A NEW OH NOT PO', HE'LL THE MOST ANTI--CHOICE, HE'S BEEN AN ANTI-ABORTION ACTIVIST SINCE COLLEGE AND IT'S BEEN A REALLY INTERESTING PROCESS OF RUNNING AGAINST HIM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE'S TRYING TO RUN BACK HIS RECORD BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE WAS IN A PRO-LIFE ORGANIZATION IN COLLEGE.

HE'S ON THE BOARD OF A SO-CALLED PREGNANCY CRISIS CENTER.

>> Mary: SHE AND HER CAMPAIGN DIG INTO YOUR BACKGROUND AND SAID YOUR BACKGROUND IN COLLEGE AND A BOARD YOU SIT ON THAT MAKES YOU ABSOLUTELY ANTI-CHOICE.

IS THAT RELEVANT TODAY?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

I MEAN, I'M PROUD TO WORK FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO GREAT THINGS IN COMMUNITIES, THAT BRING HOPE TO PEOPLE.

I MEAN, THAT ORGANIZATION THAT SHE FAILED TO MENTION IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTED AND GAVE RESOURCES AND LOVED MY MOM WHEN SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH ME.

>> HE'S IN LEADERSHIP OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT DEFINES MARRIAGE AS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN AND ALSO PROHIBITS ADOPTION BY SAME-SEX FAMILIES.

>> Mary: AND THIS IS PERSONAL FOR YOU?

>> IT'S PERSONAL.

MY WIFE AND I, WE HAVE FOUR SONS AND A FAMILY.

>> THIS IS AMERICA, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MARRY WHO YOU WANT TO, LOVE WHO YOU WANT TO.

THAT'S WHAT I SUPPORT.

>> Mary: ADOPTION, TOO?

>> OF COURSE.

SHE'S USING IT AS A POLITICAL WEDGE BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO CONFRONT THE ISSUES THAT SHE'S BEEN WRONG ON, LIKE THE BOARDER, LIKE THE ECONOMY.

>> Mary: BOTH BELIEVE THIS ELECTION COULD BE CLOSE AND UNPREDICTABLE.

>> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TOUGH IN PRESIDENTIAL YEAR CYCLES.

I'VE RUN THIS RAISE LIKE I'VE RUN THE OTHERS, RUN HARD.

>> THANK YOU NOR DOING THE RIGHT THING.

>> I KNOW YOU'RE NOT EXACTLY A DEMOCRAT.

[Laughter] >> THAT DOESN'T -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL MINNESOTA CITIZENS.

>> THIS IS A CLOSE RACE AND WE'LL BE FIGHTING HARD TO THE FINISH LINE.

>> OKAY.

>> SWEET.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS THING, LET'S GO!

♪♪ >> I WANT TO RESCIND THE TAX CUTS ON THE WEALTH'EST AMERICANS BECAUSE NORM BELIEVES THAT WEALTH STARTS FROM THE TOP AND TRICKLES DOWN.

I BELIEVE THAT THE MIDDLE CLASS -- I BELIEVE THAT THE MIDDLE CLASS -- >> AL HAS SAID THIS MANY TIMES.

I JUST WANT TO STOP RIGHT THERE.

PLEASE, AL, DON'T TELL ME ABOUT THAT I BELIEVE THAT WEALTH TRICKLES DOWN.

I'VE BEEN THERE, MAYOR OF St. PAUL, WALKING THE STREETS, FIGURING OUT HOW TO GROW WEALTH AND I FIGURE YOU DO IT BY KEEPING LIDS ON TAXES AND SPENDING.

♪♪ >> ERIC: WE'RE GOING TO TURN OUR ATTENTION NOW TO THE ONLY OPEN CONGRESSIONAL SEAT IN MINNESOTA.

THE THIRD DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY REPRESENTED BY RETIRING DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN DEAN PHILLIPS.

LOCATED WEST OF MINNEAPOLIS AND MADE UP OF HENNEPIN COUNTY INNER RING SUBURBS, IT INCLUDES SOME OF THE WEALTHIEST COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE.

IT'S BEEN A QUIET RACE SO FAR, NO BIG ATTACK ADS OR SMEAR CAMPAIGNS OR DEEP FAKES ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT'S BEEN SO QUIET, IN FACT, THAT TONIGHT'S "ALMANAC" DEBATE IS THE FIRST AND ONLY DEBATE BETWEEN THESE TWO CANDIDATES SINCE THE RACE BEGAN.

BEFORE WE MEET THOSE TWO CANDIDATES, A QUICK NOTE FOR ALL OF YOU WATCHING AT HOME.

WE CALL THIS A DEBATE BUT IT'S REALLY A CONVERSATION.

THERE ARE NO STOPWATCHES, NO OPENING OR CLOSING STATEMENTS.

NO COIN FLIPS.

NO SHORT STRAWS.

LET'S GET STARTED.

DFLER KELLY MORRISON RESIGNED HER STATE SENATE SEAT EARLIER THIS YEAR TO RUN FOR CONGRESS.

HER LEGISLATIVE CAREER BEGAN IN 2019 IN THE HOUSE.

SHE IS A DOCTOR AND RESIDENT OF DEEPHAVEN.

REPUBLICAN TAD JUDE'S CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE BEGAN AS A DFLER IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE 1970S AND 1980S, TIME AS A HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER, AND, MOST RECENTLY, AS A NONPARTISAN JUDGE.

AND A CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE.

SO HERE WE GO.

SENATOR, WHAT WILL YOU SUPPORT IN THE WAY OF ABORTION-RELATED LEGISLATION IN CONGRESS, OR ARE YOU CONTENT TO LEAVE IT TO THE STATES?

>> WELL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING US TONIGHT, GREAT TO BE HERE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE I'M AN OB-GYN BY TRAINING, I SPENT MOST OF THE TIME AS A DOCTOR, NOT A POLL TISSUE AND AND PART OF THE REASON I RAN FOR THE OFFICE IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS THAT DONALD TRUMP RAN ON APPOINTING JUSTICES TO THE SUPREME COURT WHO WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE.

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO AND HE DID IT.

AND WE'VE WATCHED THE CRISIS UNFOLD ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I HELPED LEAD THE EFFORT TO PROTECT ABORTION RIGHTS HERE IN OUR STATE AND I WOULD HOPE TO TAKE THAT FIGHT TO THE FEDERAL LEVEL SO THAT ALL AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM.

>> Eric: Mr. JUDE, WHAT ABOUT YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU VOTE FOR AND WHAT WOULD YOU OPPOSE AS FAR AS ABORTION LEGISLATION IS CONCERNED?

>> ABORTION HAS BEEN DECIDED BY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT AS A STATE ISSUE AND I SEE IT AS A STATE ISSUE, IT'S NOT ON MY AGENDA IN WASHINGTON.

WHAT WOULD BE ON MY AGENDA IS ATTACKING THE COST OF LIVING, HAVING A MINNESOTA AFFORDABLE PLAN THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IN WASHINGTON AND HAVE A REAL IMPACT ON.

BUT AS FAR AS ABORTION GOES, THAT'S A STATE SSUE.

HEALTH CARE, I SUPPORT HEALTH CARE FOR EVERYONE AND -- >> Eric: PAID FOR HOW?

>> WELL, I LOOK AT IT AS SOMETHING THAT MEN NEED, WOMEN NEED, CHILDREN NEED, SENIOR CITIZENS NEED.

NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE AND WE DO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS IN OUR COUNTRY WITH HEALTH CARE.

ONE IS WE'RE SPENDING 20% OF OUR GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT ON HEALTH CARE.

WE DON'T AVE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY IN OUR COUNTRY THAT OTHER COUNTRIES, LIKE JAPAN OR FRANCE OR OTHER COUNTRIES THAT SPEND FAR LESS ON HEALTH CARE.

WE DON'T HAVE TRANSPARENCY.

>> Eric: AND WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

>> WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BRING TRANSPARENCY TO HEALTH CARE.

WE NEED TO BRING MORE ACCESSIBILITY BY BETTER COST CONTROLS THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

>> Eric: HEALTH CARE, YOU'RE A DOCTOR, WHAT SHOULD WE DO?

>> YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS I WATCHED MY PATIENTS STRUGGLE TO AFFORD THE MEDICATIONS THAT THEY NEED SO WHEN I GOT TO THE LEGISLATURE, I TOOK ON THE HIGH COST OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.

I PASSED BIPARTISANSHIP LEGISLATION, A DRUG PRICE TRANSPARENCY ACT THAT MAKES PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES REPORT TO OUR DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WHY THEY PROVIDES CERTAIN HIGH-PRICED DRUGS THE WAY THEY DO.

VERY PROUD OF THE LEGISLATION I DID AND I WORKED WITH A REPUBLICAN SENATOR TO GET THAT PASSED.

THE INFORMATION WE GOT FROM THAT LAW AND FOR FUTURE LEGISLATION THAT I CHIEF-AUTHORED AND THEN PASSED IN THE LAST SESSION CALLED THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG AFFORDABILITY BOARD THAT IS EMPOWERED TO SET UPPER PAYMENT LIMITS FOR CERTAIN HIGH-COST DRUGS THAT CREATE AFFORDABILITY CHALLENGE FOR PATIENTS OR FOR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

WE'VE GOT HUGE OPPORTUNITY IN THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG SPACE AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, TOO.

WE NOW HAVE A NEW LAW THAT CONGRESS PASSED THAT ALLOWS MEDICARE TO NEGOTIATE TEN DRUGS, THE PRICE OF TEN DRUGS.

THAT'S A HUGE ADVANCE.

WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT LIST AND I WOULD LIKE TO DIG INTO THAT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

>> Eric: HOW WILL YOU VOTE ON EXTENDING THOSE TAX CUTS THAT WENT INTO EFFECT NOT SO LONG AGO?

THEY'RE UP I THINK NEXT YEAR.

>> WELL, ABSOLUTELY, THE TAX CUTS THAT WENT INTO EFFECT LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO, I WILL VOTE TO EXTEND THOSE.

I'LL ALSO SUPPORT EXCLUDING SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME FROM TAX.

I KNOW MY OPPONENT VOTED TO INCREASE -- CONTINUE THE TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY IN MINNESOTA -- >> ACTUALLY WE EXCLUDED 75% OF MINNESOTA SENIORS.

>> SECONDLY, I SUPPORT EXCLUDING TIPS FROM INCOME TAXES, AS WELL.

>> Eric: WELL, YOU KNOW, NOT TO INTERRUPT BUT THE DEBT IS 35.8 TRILLION DOLLARS AND THERE'S ALL KIND OF MANDATORY SPENDING FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, VETERANS BENEFITS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Eric: ALL OF THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT'S WHERE MY OPPONENT AND I -- >> Eric: WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM TO REDUCE THE THRILL I DON'T THINK DOLLARS OF DEBT HERE?

>> THAT'S WHERE ME AND MY OPPONENT DIFFER.

I'M GOING TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN WASHINGTON.

WE NEED TO CUT SPENDING.

I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE FEEDING OUR FUTURE FRAUD THAT HAD FEDERAL MONEY INCLUDED.

SOUTHWEST LIGHT RAIL THAT HAS FEDERAL MONEY INCLUDED.

THERE ARE AREAS THAT AREN'T MANAGED WELL BUT THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAD A 40% INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF STATE GOVERNMENT.

THROUGH THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THE STATE, WE HAVEN'T HAD A 40% INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF STATE GOVERNMENT AND MY OPPONENT HAS BEEN PART AND PARCEL OF THAT -- >> LET HER DEFEND HERSELF.

WE NEED >> WE NEED A TAX POLICY THAT WORKS FOR ALL MINNESOTANS.

WHAT WE DON'T NEED ARE TAX CUTS NOR BILLIONAIRES AND WE'LL HEDGE FUNDS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.

THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG SPACE IS A BIG OPPORTUNITIES.

THAT WILL SAVE INDIVIDUALS MONEY AND UR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM MILLIONS OF DECLARATION IN WE CAN EXPAND THAT LIST OF DRUGS THAT MEDICARE CAN NEGOTIATE.

WE ALSO HAVE BIG OPPORTUNITY IN CLOSING SOME LOOP HOLES.

WE HAVE A BIG OIL LOOPHOLE TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $35 BILLION.

WE HAVE THE CARRIED INTEREST LOOPHOLE, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE BUFFET RULE, THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY SO THAT A CEO IS MAKING $100 MILLION DOESN'T PAY -- PAYS A LOWER EFFECTIVE TAX RATE THAN HIS OR HER SECRETARY.

THAT I BELIEVE WOULD SAVE US $119 BILLION.

SO WE'VE GOT LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY TO TIGHTEN UP THE BUDGET AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR TAX POLICY IS BENEFITING FAMILIES AND NOT THE WEALTHIEST AMONG US.

>> Eric: YOUR DISTRICT INCLUDES THE MALL OF AMERICA AND SOUTHDALE.

>> YEAH.

>> Eric: SO I WONDER IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO THINGS LIKE MINIMUM WAGE, I THINK IT'S $7.25 THE FEDERAL LEVEL NOW, MORE IN MINNESOTA.

TRADE WITH CHINA, SUPPLY CHAIN STUFF, ARIFFS.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RESPOND WHEN THE CONCERNS OF THE WORKERS AND THE OWNERS AND THE SHOP OWNERS OF THOSE TWO MALLS COME TO TAD JUDE AND SAY, "HELP US."

>> WELL, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATION IN THE MOLD OF JIM RAMSTAD, ERIC PAULSON AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL BRING TO WASHINGTON.

MY OPPONENT VOTED TO INCREASE THE SALES TAX, FOR EXAMPLE, $10 BILLION SALES TAX OR TAX INCREASE FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.

WENT THROUGH AN $18 BILLION SURPLUS AND WAS THE ONE OTE THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE STATE SENATE.

AND THAT'S THE KIND OF MENTALITY WE CAN'T HAVE IN WASHINGTON.

WE CAN'T INCREASE THE FEDERAL BUDGET 40%.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE -- >> Eric: I WAS ASKING ABOUT TARIFFS AND TRADE AND -- >> THAT'S A PART OF THAT BUDGETING ISSUE THAT WILL BE -- BEFORE US IN WASHINGTON.

NOW, AS FAR AS TARIFFS GO, THERE ARE COUNTRIES THAT DO SUBSIDIES INDUSTRY, SUCH AS CHINA, AND I KNOW THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS CONTINUED TARIFFS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE BY THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

I WOULD SUPPORT CONTINUING THOSE TARIFFS.

>> I WOULD ADD DEAN PHILLIPS TO THE LIST, THERE IS A PROUD HISTORY IN THE THIRD DISTRICT OF BIPARTISAN REPRESENTATION, BILL FRENZEL, JIM RAMP STAYED, DEAN PHILLIPS AS WELL AS ERIC PAULSEN ALL DID A REALLY GOOD JOB F REPRESENTING EVERYONE IN THE DISTRICT, REACHING ACROSS THE AISLE, BEING VERY PRESENT IN HE DISTRICT.

DEAN PHILLIPS PARTICULARLY, THOSE ARE BIG SHOES TO FILL.

EGGS A PRO-BUSINESS DEMOCRAT, HE'S WORKED WITH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, AND THAT'S WHAT MY RECORD HAS BEEN IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

I THINK MY RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

I'VE WORKED WITH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS TO PASS MORE THAN 90 BILLS IN THE TIME THAT I WAS IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

>> Eric: I WANT TO ASK YOU BOTH ABOUT HOW YOU FIT THE DISTRICT AND I WONDER, Mr. JUDE, IF SOME OF YOUR PAST STANCES ON SOCIAL ISSUES MIGHT MAKE YOU A LITTLE OUT OF STEP WITH THE DISTRICT.

HOW DO YOU FINESSE THAT?

>> YOU KNOW, I HAVE DOOR-KNOCKED OVER 100,000 HOMES IN THE DISTRICT, THE DISTRICT KNOWS ME WELL.

I KNOW THE DISTRICT EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.

I WAS FIRST ELECTED TO THE LEGISLATURE AS A NON-PARTISAN LEGISLATOR.

I WAS ELECTED AS A NON-PARTISAN MEMBER OF THE COUNTY BOARD.

I SERVED AS A NON-PARTISAN DISTRICT COURT JUDGE AND I HAVE TO GIVE DEAN PHILLIPS CREDIT BECAUSE HE HAD THE COURAGE, HE HAD THE LEADERSHIP TO POINT OUT AN OBVIOUS ISSUE ON THE NATIONAL STAGE N THE RIGHT WAY AT THE RIGHT TIME.

SENATOR MORRISON WAS NOT THERE TO HELP HIM.

SHE CHOSE A PARTISAN ANSWER TO THAT AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WAS FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.

YOU CAN'T TAKE A PARTISAN STAND AS OPPOSED TO WHAT REALLY SUITS THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTRY TO POINT OUT THAT WE NEED A NEW PRESIDENT.

IT WAS OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE, PARTICULARLY CONGRESSMAN PHILLIPS, AND YOU WERE NOT THERE TO SUPPORT HIM.

YOU WERE THERE TO SUPPORT -- WHAT OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT IN THE INTEREST OF OUR COUNTRY AND YOU DID THAT IN THE LEGISLATURE WITH YOUR VOTING RECORD.

>> NO, YOU SHOULD CHECK MY VOTING RECORD BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY BIPARTISAN.

>> I HAVE, ABSOLUTELY.

>> THE QUESTION WAS, DO YOU FIT THE DISTRICT?

>> Eric: YOU TOOK A SERIES OF LIBERAL VOTES WHEN YOU WERE PASSING THIS AGENDA IN THE 2023 STATE SESSION AND I WONDER IF YOU'RE A LITTLE TOO FAR LEFT FOR THE DISTRICT?

>> YOU KNOW, I'VE SPENT MY CAREER, MOST OF MY CAREER AS A DOCTOR, NOT A POLITICIAN AND WHEN I FIRST RAN FOR OFFICE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT TRUMP'S PRESIDENT SEE WOULD EAN FOR REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE FOR AMERICAN WOMEN ABILITY I WAS PROUD TO HELP LEAD THAT EFFORT HERE IN MINNESOTA.

I FLIPPED A SEAT THAT HAD NEVER BEEN HELD BY A DEMOCRAT BEFORE BY 216 VOTES WITH 83% VOTER TURNOUT SO I'M VERY USED TO REPRESENTING AREAS THAT HAVE POLITICAL DIVERSITY.

YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN A REPUBLICAN FAMILY, I'M A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT, SO WE DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE IN MY AMILY BUT WE ALWAYS STILL LOVED AND RESPECTED EACH OTHER AND SOMETIMES WE WOULD EVEN LEARN SOMETHING FROM EACH OTHER.

SO WE NEED TO GET TO A LACE IN OUR COUNTRY WHERE WE'RE DOING MORE LISTENING THAN TALKING AND WE'RE TALKING WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT AT EACH OTHER.

I THINK THERE'S REAL HUNGER FOR THAT ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND CERTAINLY THERE IS IN THE THIRD DISTRICT.

PEOPLE WANT THEIR LEADERS TO BE SOLVING PROBLEMS RATHER THAN FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER.

>> Eric: WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT THE ELECTION PRODUCING A DIVIDE -- I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SAY THIS, A DIVIDED GOVERNMENT AND THERE MIGHT NOT BE A TRIFECTA IN WASHINGTON.

>> OH, I THINK A DIVIDED GOVERNMENT -- >> Eric: DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR APPROACH THEN?

>> OFTENTIMES, I'VE BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO WORKING WITH GOVERNORS OF MY PARTY AND I'VE ALSO BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO HOLDING GOVERNORS OF MY PARTY ACCOUNTABLE AND I HAVE -- I WOULD RELISH THAT OPPORTUNITY IN WASHINGTON TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT IF NECESSARY, HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE, AND THAT'S REGARDLESS OF WHO GETS ELECTED PRESIDENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT A GOOD MEMBER OF CONGRESS WOULD DO.

I WOULD NOT BE A RUBBER STAMP FOR A POLITICAL PARTY, LIKE MY OPPONENT.

MY OPPONENT IN HER VOTING RECORD HAS BEEN TAKING A ONEMINNESOTA AND HAS DIVIDED IT.

MINNESOTA IS NO LONGER A ONEMINNESOTA.

THEY WOULD NOT LISTEN TO REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE ON ANY BUDGET ISSUE, ON VIRTUALLY ANY ISSUE THAT HAD ANY CONSEQUENCE.

>> Eric: OKAY.

>> MY VOTING RECORD AND MY RECORD IN THE LEGISLATURE IS PRETTY CLEAR.

I WORKED WITH REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS MULTIPLE TIMES TO PASS SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATION, INCLUDING THE DRUG PRICE TRANSPARENCY ACT, INCLUDING A REFORM OF THE PRIOR AUTHORIZATION PROCESS, AND I PASSED ONE OF THE BILLS I'M MOST PROUD OF THAT WAS PASSED INTO LAW WAS A BILL TO EXTEND HEALTH INSURANCE TO NEW MOMS AND THEIR BABIES FROM JUST 60 DAYS TO 12 MONTHS POST-PARTUM AND I GOT THAT DONE WITH A VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SENATOR WHO DIFFERED WITH ME ON ABORTION.

WE WERE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THAT ISSUE, BUT WE DID AGREE THAT NEW MOMS AND THEIR BABIES DESERVE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE SO WE SET OUR DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND WE FOCUSED ON WHAT WE AGREED ON.

I THINK WE NEED MORE OF THAT KIND OF BRIDGE-BUILDING IN WASHINGTON.

>> Eric: THERE WAS A VAN IN EDINA THAT WAS WIDE OPEN IN THE BACK AND HAD A BUNCH OF BALLOTS IN IT AND I THINK THE REPUBLICANS HAD A NEWS CONFERENCE THIS WEEK SAYING THIS CAN'T STAND AND I THINK THERE WAS NO TAMPERING AND THEY FIRED THE COURIER THAT WAS DOING THAT BUT WHAT'S YOUR LEVEL OF COMFORT WITH SORT OF THE ELECTION INTEGRITY ISSUE?

>> YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN ON THE BALLOT A NUMBER OF TIMES, MOST OF THE TIMES I'VE WON, OF COURSE, I'VE HAD SOME CLOSE RACES, I'VE LOST SOME CLOSE RACES.

I'VE NEVER ASKED FOR A RECOUNT, NEVER DISPUTED THE ELECTION RETURNS OR THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS.

HOWEVER, I THINK THINGS ARE BEING PLAYED KIND OF FAST AND LOOSE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

YOU'VE GOT BALLOTS OUT IN THE PARKING LOT IN EDINA, HAVING POP-UP VOTING STANDS.

I THINK EVERYONE'S EYES HAVE TO BE ON THE BALLOTS THIS YEAR, SO EVERYBODY IS SECURE IN THE OUTCOME.

>> I THINK IN THESE VERY DIVIDED, HYPER PARTISAN TIMES, IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT OUR ELECTED LEADERS ARE CAREFUL WE'RE SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, USING DANGEROUS RHETORIC.

WE NEED TO -- LEADERS NEED TO SPEAK IN RESPECTFUL AND DIGNIFIED MANNER.

WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY.

IT IS UNDER THREAT RIGHT NOW.

AND IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE WHO -- EVERYONE WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE SHOULD PARTICIPATE.

OUR DEMOCRACY WORKS BEST WHEN VERY MUCH PARTICIPATES.

>> Eric: COULD WE TALK ABOUT CRIME A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE FOCUSED ON THE JUVENILE ASPECT OF I WOULD WHICH SEEMS TO BE A GROWING PROBLEM?

>> YEAH.

>> Eric: IN THE FIFTH AND THIRD DISTRICT.

>> WE'VE GOT TO TAKE PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME HEAD ON AND THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED A $300 MILLION INVESTMENT IN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THE STATE SO THAT POLICE, FIRE AND OUR 9-1-1 DEPARTMENTS HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB WELL.

I ALSO CO-AUTHORED LEGISLATION TO CRACK DOWN ON VIOLENT CAR-JACKINGS, AND OF COURSE, I HELD PAST GUN VELLS PREVENTION LAWS, UNIVERSAL CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS AND PROTECTION ORDERS TO KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE WRONG HANDS.

NOW WE NEEDS REFORMS AT THE IF HE WOULD LEVEL.

WE NEED TO PASS THE COPS REFORMMATION BANDS.

THAT'S A REAL DISTINCTION WITH MY OPPONENT WHO HAS AN A RATING FROM THE NRA.

>> Eric: WHY?

>> I THINK GOVERNOR WALZ HAD AN A RATING FROM THE NRA, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE NEED TO ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH, WE NEED TO ADDRESS GUN LOCKS.

I SUPPORT THE SECONDS AMENDMENT AND COMMON SENSE LEGISLATION WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK.

GETTING TO THE ISSUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, WE NEED TO HAVE THE BACKS OF THE MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE AND I WILL DO THAT.

WHEN IT CAME TO PUBLIC SAFETY LEGISLATION IN THE HOUSE, THEY THROUGH OUT COMMUNITY SERVICE WORKERS FROM OUR SCHOOLS.

THE POLICE DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE IN OUR SCHOOLS AND THAT WAS UNDER LEGISLATION PASSED BY MY OPPONENT.

>> YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND IS AN ARMY COMBAT VETERAN AND HE COMES FROM A LONG TRADITION OF MILITARY -- >> Eric: I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE TALKED OVER.

FINISH UP REAL QUICK AND WE'LL LET THE SENATOR TALK.

>> IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO NOT SUPPORT OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE.

I THINK WE'VE PAID A HIGH PRICE IN MINNESOTA.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THAT TO SAY I DON'T RESPECT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO ME.

MY HUSBAND IS A MILITARY VETERAN, HE COMES FROM A LOANING TRADITION OF SERVICE.

MY FATHER WAS A HERO OF MINE, I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR PEOPLE WHO PUT ON A UNIFORM TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND OUR COUNTRY AND I STAND WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>> Eric: SUPREME COURT, THERE'S GOING TO BE I THINK AN EFFORT TO MAYBE ADD MORE JUSTICES OR HAVE AGE OR TERM LIMITS ON THE SUPREME COURT.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?

>> WELL, AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN A JUDGE NOR 11 YEARS, I FEEL IT HAS TO BE NONPARTISAN.

I THINK ANY ISSUE BEFORE THE COURTS HAVE TO BE DECIDED ON THE FACTS, ON THE LAW, ON THE CONSTITUTION.

I DO NOT SUPPORT COURT PACKING.

>> OUR SUPREME COURT IS AT HISTORIC LOWS OF PUBLIC OPINION WHICH IS SO SAD.

I THINK ABOUT WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, THE SUPREME COURT WAS THE PINNACLE OF JUSTICE AND EVENNESS AND FAIRNESS.

THEY WERE THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST AND IT'S BECOME AN ABSOLUTE PARTISAN TOOLING.

SO I'M OPEN TO COURT REFORM.

I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE IDEAS WERE BUT I'M OPEN TO COURT REFORM AND AT A MINIM MINIMUM, -- AT A MINIMUM, THEY SHOULD BE HELD TO ETHICS REFORM.

>> Eric: THERE'S REDUCING POLARIZATION, BRINGING COMPROMISE BACK IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ONCE IN A WHILE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Eric: WHAT MIGHT THAT ROLE BE FOR A MEMBER OF CONGRESS?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE NEED TO START WITH MEMBERS OF CONGRESS BEING INTEREST FIND IN GOVERNING AND SOLVING PROBLEMS RATHER THAN BECOMING SOCIAL MEDIA CELEBRITIES AND STOKING THE FLAMES OF DIVISION.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT LEADERS CONDUCT THEMSELVES WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY.

OUR KIDS ARE WATCHING AND THEY'RE WATCHING ADULTS BEHAVE BADLY.

THAT'S A STARTING POINT.

AND AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN PROUD TO WORK WITH REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

I HAPPEN TO BE RELATED TO SEVERAL REPUBLICANS, I LOVE REPUBLICANS SO THAT WOULD BE A MISSION OF MINE, IF I HAD THE HONOR OF SERVING IN CONGRESS TO FIND REPUBLICANS WHO COULD WORK -- I COULD WORK WITH AND WHO WOULD WORK WITH ME.

>> Eric: AND YOU'RE FORMER DEMOCRAT.

>> YES, I AM, I WAS BORN AND RAISED A DEMOCRAT.

>> Eric: WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO KIND OF TONE DOWN THE TEMPERATURE A LITTLE BIT?

>> WELL, I THINK JUST NEED TO WORK -- TO FIND COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS AND I HAVE I'D ALWAYS TRIED TO DO THAT.

I'VE WORKED ACROSS THE AISLE, I'VE WORKED WITH REPUBLICANS, I'VE WORKED WITH DEMOCRATS.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP, OCCASIONALLY YOU EVEN NEED TO CHALLENGE YOUR PARTY.

THAT'S WHERE MY OPPONENT AND I DIFFER.

I HAVE CHALLENGED MY PARTY ON IMPORTANT ISSUES AT TIMES.

IT TAKES COURAGE.

DEAN PHILLIPS DID THAT.

THAT'S WHERE THE CONGRESSMAN, THE NEXT ONGRESSMAN FROM THE THIRD DISTRICT SHOULD DO IS OCCASIONALLY CHALLENGE THEIR OWN PARTY.

I HAVE DONE THAT.

MY OPPONENT ASN'T AND THAT'S WHAT AN BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

ERIC REAL QUICK?

>> I HAVE STOOD UP TO MY PARTY ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS BUT LET'S BE CLEAR WHY YOU BECAME A REPUBLICAN.

IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE ABORTION ISSUE.

IF THE PEOPLE OF THIRD DISTRICT SHOULD KNOW THAT I AM A -- I WILL STAND UP FOR A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO MAKE HER OWN HEALTH CARE DECISIONS AND MY OPPONENT WILL NOT.

>> AN ABORTION IS A STATE ISSUE, IT'S NOT ON MY AGENDA.

WHAT IS ON MY AGENDA -- >> IT'S A HUMAN ISSUE, SIR.

>> -- MAKING MINNESOTA AFFORDABLE AGAIN, WE'LL DO THAT BY CUTTING SPENDING, CUTTING TAXES, CLEAN UP ENERGY SOURCES AND CREATE HIGH-PAYING JOBS.

>> Eric: SO THE OPTIONS OULD BE TO KEEP THE STATE'S INVOLVED IN THE DECISION-MAKING ON ABORTION OR A BAN I SUPPOSE AT THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL OR SOME KIND F MORE OF A LIBERAL PRO-CHOICE LEGISLATION?

HOW DO YOU PARSE WHERE IT MIGHT BE HEADED?

>> THERE'S ALREADY A BILL IN CONGRESS NOW CALLED THE WOMEN'S HEALTH PROTECTION ACT THAT WOULD CODIFY ROE ERSUS WADE SO THOSE PROTECTIONS WOULD RETURN TO ALL AMERICAN WOMEN.

WE'RE SEEING A MATERNAL HEALTH CRISIS UNFOLD ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.

THIS IS HARMFUL TO WOMEN, THIS IS HANDLEFUL TO FAMILIES.

THIS IS NTERFERING WITH PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO HAVE CHILDREN IN THE FUTURE.

THERE IS SO MUCH NUANCE IN THESE ISSUES, THESE DECISIONS HAVE TO BE BETWEEN A WOMAN AND HER DOCTOR.

>> YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT FEDERAL LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE THAT ISSUE.

IT IS A STATE ISSUE.

IT IS NOT ON MY AGENDA.

WHAT IS ON MY AGENDA IS MAKING MINNESOTA AFFORDABLE AGAIN, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE.

6 AN ABLE TO BUY A HOME OR RENT AN APARTMENT, BUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, PUT GAS IN THE CAR, PAY INSURANCE BILLS, PAY PROPERTY TAXES.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON AND THAT IS MY AGENDA TO MAKE MINNESOTA AFFORDABLE AGAIN.

>> Eric: WHAT HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP?

>> YOU KNOW, I WILL WORK WITH WHOEVER IS PRESIDENT AND IF NEEDED, I WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE AS A LEGISLATOR, WITH GOVERNORS OF MY OWN PARTY.

I HAVE HELD THEM ACCOUNTABLE WHEN WE HAVE HAD TO DO THAT.

AND I WILL DO THAT REGARDLESS OF KAMALA LARS OR PRESIDENT TRUMP ARE ELECTED THIS FALL.

>> Eric: YOUR THOUGHTS ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THIS IS A WATERSHEDS MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY AND I REALLY BELIEVE WHEN AMERICANS GET IN THE VOTING BOOT, THEY'RE GOING TO CHOOSE DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM AND VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS AND TIM WALZ.

>> Eric: HAVING WALZ ON THE TICKET, IS THAT A BOAST TO THE DEMOCRATS?

>> I THINK SO, I THINK HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

I THINK MINNESOTANS REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL AFILLATION ARE PROWLED THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE ON THE NATIONAL TICKET AND I THINK E'S REPRESENTING US WELL.

>> WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE ABOUT GOVERNOR WALZ ONCE IN A WHILE.

I THINK HE'S RAISED A COUPLE OF CREDIBILITY ISSUES HERE IN THE LAST MONTH OR TWO.

>> Eric: TRANSPORTATION MIGHT BE AN ISSUE WHERE YOU CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE THIRD DISTRICT.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BE ON, YOU KNOW, RAPID TRANSIT BUS, LIGHT RAIL, OTHER THINGS THAT WILL COME DOWN THE PIKE?

>> TRANSPORTATION IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND I'VE BEEN LASER-FOCUSED ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, CHILD CARE, HOUSING, MAKE -- SHORING UP OUR SUPPLY CHAINS AND MAKING SURE WE INVEST IN OUR WORKFORCE.

WE NEED MORE APPRENTICESHIPS, WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THE ONE SIZE IN IT ALL FOUR-YEAR COLLEGE EDUCATION, WE NEED TO INVEST IN APPRENTICESHIPS.

TRANSPORTATION IS A PIECE OF THAT.

HOW DO YOU GET TO WORK.

I'M A BIG FAN OF BUS RAPID TRANSIT, I LOVE HOW VERSATILE AND CHANGEABLE IT IS SO THERE WILL BE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IM PROMPTS IN THE THIRDS.

>> Eric: LIGHT RAIL WILL BE COMING TO EDEN PRAIRIE.

>> WHEN?

[Laughter] YOU TELL ME WHEN.

>> YOU STUMPED ME.

>> IT'S LIKE TEN YEARS DELAYED AND AT LEAST TWO, IF NOT THREE TIMES WHAT THE ORIGINAL PRICE WAS.

>> Eric: WHAT WOULD BE YOUR GENERAL STANCE ON TRANSIT, THEN?

>> IT SHOULD BE MANAGED WELL.

I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES IN TERMS OF MANAGEMENT, NOT ONLY IN BUILDING IT BUT IN OPERATING LIGHT RAIL AND I REMEMBER ABOUT IT WAS FIRST DESIGNED, THEY TOOK EVERYBODY OUT TO PORTLAND, OREGON, TO SEE THEIR SYSTEM.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY TURNSTILES, ANY BARRIERS TO GET ON TO THE PLATFORM, GET ON TO THE LIGHT RAIL.

WELL, WEDNESDAY THE PORTLAND, OREGON SYSTEM HERE IN MINNESOTA NEWSPAPER.

>> Eric: GOT ABOUT A MINUTE LEVELED, MINUTE AND A HALF.

IS IT THE END OF THE WORLD IF PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ELECTED?

>> IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

I AM A PROUD AMERICAN.

WE ARE A UNIQUE COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH HARD THINGS AND WE'LL GET THROUGH THAT BUT I'M CONFIDENT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA WILL PICK KAMALA HARRIS.

>> Eric: IF KAMALA HARRIS WINS, IS IT GOING TO BE AS BAD AS TRUMP SAYS IT MIGHT BE?

>> I'M GOING TO HOLD WHOEVER IS NOT ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE'LL DO THAT AND BRING BACK THE AMERICAN DREAM.

>> Eric: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TURNOUT IS GOING TO BE?

YOU'VE GOT HIGH INFORMATION VOTERS IN YOUR DISTRICT.

>> I THINK IT WILL BE HIGH.

>> Eric: WHAT ARE YOU HEARING AT THE DOOR?

>> HE THIRDS DISTRICT OFTEN SETS RECORDS FOR VOTER TURNOUT, A VERY ENGAGED DISTRICT.

WE'RE HEARING ABOUT ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, CONCERNS ABOUT DEMOCRACY, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

ALL KIND OF THINGS.

THE THIRD IS ENGAGED AND FIRED UP.

>> Eric: WHAT ARE YOU HEARING AT THE DOOR?

>> I HEAR ABOUT THE ECONOMY, I HEAR ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY RENT OR NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY A HOME, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET FOOD -- ENOUGH FOOD ON THE TABLE.

HOW TO BUY GASOLINE FOR THE CAR, PAY FOR INSURANCE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS, MAKE MINNESOTA AFFORDABLE AGAIN.

>> Eric: OKAY.

THIRD DISTRICT CONGRESSIONAL RACE, NOVEMBER 5th AND GET OUT AND VOTE OR NOT AS YOU CHOOSE.

[Laughter] s THANK YOU BOOT.

BEST OF LURK ON THE TRAIL HERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Eric: THANK YOU.

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