between Chicago's mayor in the leader of Chicago.

Public schools are escalating.

The Chicago Sun-Times reported Friday that Mayor Brandon Johnson told CPS CEO Pedro Martinez, he wants him to leave his position.

And also last week, the Chicago teachers Union House of Delegates issued a no confidence vote for Martinez.

This as the CTU and CPS are in contract negotiations right now and the Board of Education just approved a new five-year plan laying out the district's goals.

Joining us now with more is Stacy Davis.

Gates, president of the Chicago Teachers Union.

We also invited Chicago Public Schools, CEO Pedro Martinez, but he declined this evening.

Stacy, welcome back.

Thank you for joining Thank you for having So you all announced just last night that your House of taking a vote of no confidence against CEO Pedro Martinez last week at your House of Delegates meeting last time I saw this happen was under Forrest Claypool, who was appointed by then-Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

What led to this this time?

>> Well, brand is right now.

We have oversize classrooms, kindergarten classrooms with over.

35 students in them.

We have over 1200 teacher vacancies currently in the district.

We have schools that do not have the type of teacher assistant that we need their we have bilingual students whose needs are going unmet and the fallback is Google Translate we have a list that was just uncovered of schools that will be closed.

>> The combination.

>> Of all of those things and the lack of movement at the bargaining table contributed to a unanimous vote of our House of Delegates.

In fact, and their lack of confidence in the leadership of the Chicago Public Schools currently not unanimous vote.

Your House of Delegates is what 500 1000 I say it was over 60600.

Okay.

>> Here Chicago tonight because you you mentioned the list of school closures just last month, Pedro Martinez reiterated his pledge not to close any schools.

As you've mentioned, there has been reports about a potential list of schools that could be closed as the district faces.

>> Its budget deficit.

What we know about this alleged list of potential closures will its list.

We have the list.

We were not supposed to have the list.

In fact.

>> There was a document that we received that had.

>> Other tabs attached to it, which where, you know, encrypted of sorts.

And so we had to break that.

So this is not something that anyone wanted us to have.

And so then there by receiving it.

The question is now, why was this list commissioned?

And if this list is no longer an active, then who made those decisions and why?

I think the CEO ohsa some explanations, he doesn't deny the existence of the list.

In fact, if you look closely at the school district's budget, coupled with the offering of raises that he may through a press release those scenes also contribute to a couple of things.

The layoff and the codification of over 5,000 educators as well as furlough days.

These 2 things couple together begged the question.

What does the CEO see as the future of the Chicago Public Schools and how does he help to create that vision without cuts consolidations or closures.

The codification of thousands of job vacancies.

These things do not help us have a fully staffed fully funded school community.

In fact, it's opposite of that.

>> A year ago, first day of school, there seem to much more unity between Pedro Martinez.

The mayor, of course, in CTU more than we've seen in previous first days of school when that kind of showing is made what happened in the last year?

>> Well, never has there been a time think this level of alignment with the Chicago teachers Union, the Chicago Board of Education and the mayor's office, the Board of Education just passed the 5 year strategic plan.

That plan mirrors our contract proposal and it also mirrors the mayor's education transition report.

All of those things mean a line.

We've never had that before in the history of this.

The only thing that's a sore thumb is the CEO of our school district.

He's not listening to the board of Education who say, yes, we want vision and that it and these contract proposals or else they would have passed the strategic plan unanimously.

The confusion in the frustration right now it's palpable because Pedro Martinez is CEO of our school district, says one thing in the public.

And that's quite another thing in his direction of his staff and at the bargaining table, there have been reports that the mayor, as we've said, has called on page or to resign in a statement sent to families and staff on Friday night, Martinez said, quote, >> Are students of clearly benefited from the increased stability in our school system.

We are confident that our work to date has set the foundation for more success and will increase access to opportunities for all students.

We will continue to lead with integrity and transparency in service of our students.

Making no mention of these reports that we've But also it sounds like he does not have plans to step aside as of as of that e-mail that he sent out on Friday night.

But what do you make of that?

But he's I make of this the same thing that I just said, that there is a PR Pedro.

>> And then there is another Pedro, our CEO is doing 2 things.

He's making presentation to the stakeholders is that he is in alignment.

>> With the board of Education with the mayor of Chicago and with the teachers and the PARA professionals and clinicians and on the other end of this, he is saying that all of linemen is impossible to bring to fruition because we don't have the funding and then he doubles down and says and I don't have a plan to win the funding either.

Pedro Martinez has to do 2 things he has to get in line with his board of education with his boss, the mayor and with the workers who make the district and he needs to create a vision and a plan, how we win the revenue in the funding to offer students with a desired, offering them cuts only is not the vision we have for this district and our union will not go backwards.

We've done that are ready.

It doesn't work.

>> You've also been pointing to some of Martinez's work when he served CFO of CPS some years ago.

What is it that you think about his work then relates to the work he's doing today?

Well, as the disingenuous nature of his critique of the financial standing of the district.

>> When, in fact, it is the the work he did to see and securing creating the types of loans tax.

6 watts that the district is being oppressed by right now that he is saying that he won't do.

That's fine.

That you won't do it.

And what will you do and what accountability do you take for putting our district and the type of financial straits is in right now to actually act as if he has not been a participated.

And the dysfunction of the district.

It is wrong he should be accountable for that.

And to also abdicate responsibility for creating the plan that we need to make sure that we have smaller class sizes and a nurse social worker in every school that 100% instead of 20% of our schools have libraries and librarians it.

To that point, how does the district pay for that, though?

Because we all know the district is facing a budget deficit this year to the point that it has decided against making its pension payment or part of a >> pension payment that the district normally takes on and facing an even bigger budget deficit next year.

You know, I'll answer the question like this.

The first day of school I was at Po Classico and the Pullman neighborhood and I met a mother there.

>> Who exclaimed about her experience, their child's experience there and was very happy about the first day of school.

She talked about the difficulty she's had as a family, getting her child to and from school because that's the selective enrollment school.

she no longer has bus service from Chicago.

Public schools.

But what she did is that she got another job over the summer.

She figured out how to bring new revenue into her so she can afford to buy a transportation vehicle to get her child to school every day.

Pedro can't tell us.

No.

And that cuts are okay.

When black single mothers every day in the city are figuring out how make ends meet, had to get their kids to school and how to do it with a smile.

He's got to do more than say, cuts closures and consolidations.

30 seconds left.

Will it take a new CEO to get a contract?

>> That's you know, that does not mean that disruption for CPS, families and students.

for as many times as I've said, a negotiating temple.

I've never sat there with the CEO of the Chicago Public Schools.

They don't come to the table.

In fact, they should bring Jim friends it back to the table.

Maybe we can get a deal.

That's saying something.

If you're offering to bring Jim frantic back and