>> CATHY: WE'RE GOING TO TURN OUR ATTENTION TO POLITICS NOW.

THERE'S JUST 24 DAYS UNTIL ELECTION DAY.

CANDIDATES FROM BOTH MAJOR PARTIES HAVE BEEN CAMPAIGNING IN BATTLEGROUND STATES.

DEMOCRATIC V.P.

CANDIDATE, MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM WALZ, HAS BEEN PART OF A MEDIA BLITZ THIS WEEK.

HERE'S A QUICK LOOK AT SOME OF HIS NATIONAL APPEARANCES.

>> AMERICA'S SWEETHEART, GOVERNOR TIM WALZ.

[ Cheers and applause ] ♪♪ >> WEIRD OR NOT WEIRD?

FAMILIES WEARING MATCHING PAJAMAS AT CHRISTMAS TIME.

>> OH, NOT WEIRD.

>> TOFURKEY.

>> H, THAT'S WEIRD.

>> ALL RIGHT.

[ Laughter ] [ Applause ] >> WHAT WOULD A HARRIS-WALZ ADMINISTRATION DO DIFFERENT THAN A BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION WHEN IT COMES TO CONVINCING PEOPLE THAT THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO GET BETTER FOR THEM?

>> WE'VE SEEN IT IN MINNEAPOLIS.

WHEN YOU HAVE MORE HOUSING STOCK, WE'VE SEEN RATES GO DOWN.

HER BORDER POLICY EALTZ ARE THE MOST STRONGEST, THE FAIREST WE'VE SEEN.

>> NOW, GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE INCLUDING YOUR OWN PARTY WOULD NOT JOIN THAT STATEMENT.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO THINK, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN TRUST THIS GUY.

>> I WILL OWN UP WHEN I MISSPEAK.

LET'S BE VERY CLEAR.

ON THAT DEBATE STAGE THE OTHER NIGHT, I ASKED ONE VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.

AND SENATOR VANCE WOULD NOT ACKNOWLEDGE.

>> ISN'T THAT MORE THAN JUST BEING A KNUCKLEHEAD?

>> I THINK FOLKS KNOW WHO I AM AND I THINK HEY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXPRESSING EMOTION, GETTING A DATE RONG, RATHER THAN A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR LIKE DONALD TRUMP.

WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE A PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE POLICY.

MAKING UP STORIES ABOUT LEGAL, FOLKS LEGALLY HERE, EATING CATS AND DOGS, THEY'RE DEHUMANIZING.

♪♪ >> ERIC: GOVERNOR WALZ’S RUNNING MATE, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, V.P.

KAMALA HARRIS, HAS BEEN UPPING HER MEDIA APPEARANCES THIS WEEK AS WELL.

REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE, FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, HAS DECLINED OR BACKED OUT OF MANY NATIONAL INTERVIEWS, PREFERRING TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO HIS VOTERS AT CAMPAIGN RALLIES OR WITH MEDIA OUTLETS HE SEES AS FRIENDLY TO HIS CAMPAIGN.

WHAT IMPACT DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE WHEN VOTERS GO TO THE POLLS?

DAVID SCHULTZ IS HERE.

HE TEACHES POLITICS AT HAMLINE UNIVERSITY AND IS AN ADJUNCT LAW PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ST. THOMAS.

WITH ALL THE TENS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, WHY ARE THESE CANDIDATES NOW LOOKING FOR FREE MEDIA, WHEN THEY COULD BUY ADS AND DO THAT KIND OF STUFF WITHOUT HAVING TO FACE BILL WHICH THE WAS CONFER AT 60 MINUTES?

>> WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AT THIS POINT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH SOME ADDITIONAL VOTERS AND TO TRY TO SORT OF DEFINE THEIR IMAGE AT THIS POINT.

I THINK WHAT THEY'RE HOPING WITH ALL THIS FREE MEDIA IS TO FIND PEOPLE WHO THEY CANNOT OTHERWISE FIND, AND JUST HOPE THEY FIND SOME STRAY VOTER OUT THERE WHO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND OTHERWISE.

>> Cathy: SO THAT'S WHY VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS DID THAT REALLY POPULAR PODCAST THAT'S FOCUSED ON YOUNGER WOMEN, AND WASN'T TIM WALZ DOING SOME KIND OF A GAMING THING, ON TWITCH, YEAH.

>> 150,000 TO 200,000 VOTERS AND A ESPECIALLY I'M GOING TO SAY RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR WHAT THE CANDIDATES ARE LOOKING FOR ARE VOTERS UNDER THE AGE OF 30, THE AGE OF 35, WHO ARE SO HARD TO FIND.

>> Cathy: OH, WELL, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT POLLS THEN.

HOW SERIOUSLY SHOULD WE TAKE THEM?

ARE THEY ACCURATELY BENCHMARKING YOUNG VOTERS?

ARE THEY ACCURATELY FINDS THEM?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

BECAUSE THINK ABOUT IT.

TRYING TO FIND A LIKELY VOTER'S HARD AND YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE HARD TO SORT OF GET AHOLD OF.

THINK ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO ACTUALLY TEXT MESSAGE YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER TO HAVE THEM RESPOND TO YOU.

POLLSTERS GOT THE SAME PROBLEM HERE, BUT THEN WHEN THEY ASK THEM, HAVE YOU VOTED IN THE PAST, IF THEY HAVEN'T, BECAUSE THEY JUST TURNED 18 OR 19 OR 20.

THESE ARE HARD.

I THINK THE BIG ISSUE IN THIS CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO BE NOW, ESPECIALLY FOR HARRIS, CAN SHE REACH THOSE YOUNGER VOTERS WHO ARE NOT BEING CAUGHT IN THE POLLS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW, IS THAT BY HER ENTERING AFTER BIDEN EXITED, THAT SHIFTED THE DYNAMICS WITH OUNGER VOTERS.

THUS PODCASTS AND THESE ALTERNATIVE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.

>> Eric: LET'S TALK GENDER GAP FOR A SECOND.

PRESIDENT OBAMA IS SCOLDING MEN.

AND TRUMP IS PLANNING A WOMEN'S ONLY TOWN HALL IN GEORGIA.

THEY'RE ADDRESSING WEAKNESSES GENDER-WISE THERE?

>> THEY ARE, AND I THINK THEY'RE BOTH RECOGNIZING, ESPECIALLY THAT WOMEN ARE REALLY A CRITICAL VOTING BLOC.

WOMEN ARE NOW 54% OF THE ELECTORATE IN THE UNITED STATES.

THEY TURN OUT MORE THAN MEN.

I'VE BEEN DESCRIBING, I'M ACTUALLY DOING THE HANDS FOR SCALES HERE ON PURPOSE.

FOR MANY VOTERS, ESPECIALLY WOMEN, ON THE ONE HAND, IT'S THE ECONOMY.

THEY GO TO THE STORE, THEY SEE THE COST OF DIAPERS, BREAD, MILK, EGGS, ET CETERA.

BUT FOR MANY OF THEM, IT'S REPRODUCTIVE ISSUES.

SO THEY'RE BOTH TRYING TO AIM FOR A GROUP OF VOTERS WHO ARE 54% OF THE ELECTORATE.

THEY NEED TO WORK ON HOW TO IDENTIFY FEMALE VOTERS UNDER ROUGHLY THE AGE 35.

>> Cathy: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW PEW.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING.

13% OF VOTERS ARE STILL PERSUADABLE.

THAT SEEMS HIGH TO ME.

>> I'M NOT PERSUADED BY THAT AT THIS POINT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN TRUE THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WITH THE EXCEPTION WITH THAT SMALL PERIOD OF TIME AFTER THE BIDEN-TRUMP DEBATE, LET'S GO BACK A YEAR, THE POLLS AND PUBLIC OPINION HAS LARGELY BEEN FROZEN.

A YEAR AGO, IT WAS, WHAT?

TRUMP MAYBE JUST A HAIR AHEAD OF BIDEN.

AND EXCEPT FOR THAT BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME THERE, DESPITE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS, DEBATES, NATIONAL CONVENTIONS, THE POLLS HAVEN'T SCHIFF SHIFTED REALLY.

WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO STATES LIKE PENNSYLVANIA, IT'S ABOUT 2%, 1% UNDECIDED.

THAT'S REALLY WHERE IT IS AT THIS POINT.

AND IT'S NOT ABOUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, ARE THEY GOING TO VOTE TRUMP VERSUS HARRIS.

IT'S ARE THEY GOING TO SHOW UP TO VOTE OR NOT SHOW UP?

>> Eric: AS A PROFESSOR, WHAT'S YOUR GRADE FOR WALZ SO FAR?

>> PROBABLY A "C" AT THIS POINT.

I KNOW MINNESOTA PEOPLE ARE THINKING, WELL, HE'S OUR FAVORITE SON, HE'S DOING REALLY WELL.

WALZ HAS NOT TURNED OUT TO BE THE ASSET THAT MANY PEOPLE WERE HOPING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

IT'S THE WHOLE IDEA OF SAYING THAT SOMEHOW A GOVERNOR FROM MINNESOTA IS GOING TO APPEAL TO, LET'S SAY, AN UNDECIDED VOTER IN SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA.

THAT WAS A LONG SHOT TO START WAS AT THIS POINT.

BUT HE'S HAD A LOT OF MISSTATEMENTS AT THIS POINT AND THE SCRIPT, THE FAIR TIIVE IS NOW STARTING TO TURN O, IT'S WALZ EXAGGERATING.

-THINK ABOUT THIS PAST WEEK, ALL ABOUT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN COME OUT AND SAY, NO, THAT IS NOT OUR OFFICIAL POSITION ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

>> Eric: WELL,