
In clash with Zelenskyy, Trump deepens diplomatic rift
Clip: 2/28/2025 | 7m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
In clash with Zelenskyy, Trump deepens diplomatic rift over Russia's war in Ukraine
It was an extraordinary scene in the Oval Office as President Trump made a public break with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy. The two presidents and Vice President Vance argued for nearly five minutes in front of cameras. The heated back-and-forth could have profound effects on Ukraine and its defense against Russia's invasion and the U.S. relationship with Europe. Nick Schifrin reports.
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In clash with Zelenskyy, Trump deepens diplomatic rift
Clip: 2/28/2025 | 7m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
It was an extraordinary scene in the Oval Office as President Trump made a public break with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy. The two presidents and Vice President Vance argued for nearly five minutes in front of cameras. The heated back-and-forth could have profound effects on Ukraine and its defense against Russia's invasion and the U.S. relationship with Europe. Nick Schifrin reports.
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An extraordinary scene in the Oval Office today, as President Donald Trump made a public break with Ukrainian President Donald Trump.
GEOFF BENNETT: The two presidents, as well as Vice President Vance, argued for nearly five minutes with the cameras rolling, a spectacle that could have profound effects on Ukraine and the U.S. relationship with Europe.
Here's Nick Schifrin.
NICK SCHIFRIN: In the Oval Office today, an unprecedented, unmitigated train wreck.
J.D.
VANCE, Vice President of the United States: The path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, Ukrainian President (through translator): Can I ask you?
J.D.
VANCE: Sure, yeah, yeah.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: OK. NICK SCHIFRIN: What follows is the majority of the war of words over a country at war, beginning with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy doubting any diplomacy with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: He broken the cease-fire, he killed our people, and he didn't exchange prisoners.
We signed the exchange of prisoners but he didn't do it.
What kind of diplomacy, J.D., you are speaking about?
What do you have -- what do you -- what do you mean?
J.D.
VANCE: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: Yeah, but he... J.D.
VANCE: Mr. President -- Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media.
Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.
You should be thanking the president for trying to bring an end to this conflict... VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: Have you ever been to Ukraine?
That you say what problems we have.
J.D.
VANCE: I have been to... VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: Then come once.
J.D.
VANCE: I have actually -- I have actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens, is you bring people -- you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.
Are -- do you disagree that you've had problems... VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: What?
J.D.
VANCE: ... bringing people into your military?
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: We have problems... J.D.
VANCE: And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to -- trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: I will answer.
A lot of -- a lot of questions.
Let's start from the beginning.
J.D.
VANCE: Sure.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.
Even you, but you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.
God bless... DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States: You don't know that.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: God bless... DONALD TRUMP: Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
We're trying to solve a problem.
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: I'm not telling you.
I'm answering... DONALD TRUMP: You're in no position to dictate that.
Remember that.
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he's - - happens to be right about it.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: ... from the very beginning of the war... DONALD TRUMP: You're not in a good position.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: I was... DONALD TRUMP: You don't have the cards right now.
With us, you start having cards, but right now, you don't... VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: We are not playing cards.
I am very serious, Mr. President, I'm very serious.
DONALD TRUMP: You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: You think... DONALD TRUMP: You're gambling with World War III.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: What do you think... DONALD TRUMP: You're gambling with World War III.
And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.
DONALD TRUMP: Far more than a lot of people said they should have.
J.D.
VANCE: Have you said "Thank you" once this entire meeting?
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: A lot of times.
J.D.
VANCE: No, in this entire meeting, have you said "thank you"?
You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.
Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: Please, you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war, you can... DONALD TRUMP: He's not speaking loudly.
He's not speaking loudly.
Your country's in big trouble.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: Can I answer?
DONALD TRUMP: We gave you... DONALD TRUMP: ... through the stupid president $350 billion... VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: You voted... DONALD TRUMP: Your men are brave, but they had to use our military... DONALD TRUMP: If you didn't have our military equipment... VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: You invited me to speak... (CROSSTALK) DONALD TRUMP: If you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: In three days.
I heard it from Putin, in three days.
This is something... DONALD TRUMP: Maybe less.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: In two weeks.
Of course he has.
DONALD TRUMP: It's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this.
You have to be thankful.
You don't have the cards.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY: I'm thankful.
DONALD TRUMP: You're buried there.
Your people are dying.
You're running low on soldiers.
Listen, it's going to be a tough deal to make because the attitudes have to change.
And your people are very brave, but you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
NICK SCHIFRIN: And that's exactly what President Trump did.
After the meeting, he wrote on TRUTH Social: "I have determined that President Zelenskyy is not ready for peace if America is involved.
He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office.
He can come back when he's ready for peace."
Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian delegation left without the economic deal that he came here to sign.
Moscow responded with glee.
Former Russian President and deputy chair of the Security Council Dmitry Medvedev tweeted: "The insolent pig finally got a proper slap-down in the Oval Office, and Donald Trump is right.
The Kyiv regime is gambling with World War III."
For weeks, European leaders have been trying to prevent a U.S.-Ukraine break.
This week, they thought they made progress, with Trump suggesting just yesterday Ukraine could gain back occupied territory.
DONALD TRUMP: We're going to see if we can get it back.
We will get a lot of it back for Ukraine, if that's possible.
NICK SCHIFRIN: But what a difference a day makes.
DONALD TRUMP: But you're not acting at all thankful, and that's not a nice thing.
I will be honest.
That's not a nice thing.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Today, Europe rallied to Zelenskyy's defense.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen wrote: "Your dignity honors the bravery of the Ukrainian people."
The European Union's top diplomat, Kaja Kallas, wrote: "Today, it became clear that the free world needs a new leader.
It's up to us Europeans to take this challenge."
And French President Emmanuel Macron: EMMANUEL MACRON, French President (through translator): We have to thank all those who have helped and respect all those who, from the beginning, have done the fighting, because they're fighting for their dignity, their independence, for their children, and for the security of Europe.
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): What do I think?
Complete, utter disaster.
NICK SCHIFRIN: But, back at the White House, Trump and Ukraine ally South Carolina Republican Lindsey Graham said diplomacy with Zelenskyy was all but dead.
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM: I talked to Zelenskyy this morning.
Don't take the bait.
What I saw in the Oval Office was disrespectful.
And I don't know if we can ever do business with Zelenskyy again.
NICK SCHIFRIN: In the last hour, President Trump repeated that message, saying that Zelenskyy wanted to come back to the White House tonight, but that the president was leaving for Mar-a-Lago.
And the president also said that, in order to restart U.S.-Ukrainian talks, Zelenskyy would have to say -- quote -- "I want to make peace.
I don't want to fight a war any longer."
That is not something, Geoff, he's been willing to say.
And, right now it's not clear how or if U.S. support for Ukraine will continue.
GEOFF BENNETT: Well, Nick, beyond their public comments, what are European leaders telling you about how they're viewing all of this?
NICK SCHIFRIN: Multiple officials told me tonight that this feels like a fundamental transatlantic break.
As we just reported, all of them came to Zelenskyy's defense tonight, and today's meeting came after Vance and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth traveled to Europe in the last few weeks and made it clear that it was not the Trump administration's priority to defend Europe.
So, the incoming German chancellor is saying that Europe needs strategic independence from the U.S. and a senior U.S. -- senior European, rather, official tells me tonight that, over the next week, Europe will, one, draw up its own security guarantees for Ukraine and send more financing and equipment to Ukraine directly.
Geoff, European officials have said this in the past, but they seem to mean it more than ever.
But we know that nothing can replace U.S. military support for Ukraine.
GEOFF BENNETT: Nick Schifrin at the White House for us tonight.
Nick, thank you.
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